並前往https://chartable.com/podcasts/5-ge-dan-zi-zhang-wo-shi-shi/episodes/110828996-zheng-zhi-bi-hu-de-ying-wen-lai-tai-liang-nian-jiu-na-shen-fen-zheng-shi-bang-dao-zhong-guo-huan-shi-xiang-gang-e427